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Frequency Work Hand Three

Until I learn more, I’m using the frequencies and recommended bet size in Snowie. If you feel the frequency is whacked, I’d love to hear the discussion. I’ll be checking it out myself; no idea what these are going to look like.

(As it turns out, when Snowie gives a percentage for an action, it’s not including card removal for the combos of the previous street. So, my numbers are a bit off for my buckets. I didn’t go back and redo my buckets after finding this out. The weighted combos on the turn and river are because not all combos got through from earlier streets. Perusing Snowie’s hand selections are really interesting.)

I’ll use the default bluff to value ratios (2:1, 1:1, 1:2) until I discover some reason to begin deviating. In addition, I’ll be examining Snowie’s ranges compared to the ones I create. Tedious work in this software. That way I can compare hand selection for buckets as well as Snowie’s ratios.

For Hand 3, I’m using another UTG hand, still working with a more manageable number of combinations and ensuring I get comfortable with the opening ranges in each position. This time, only the BB flats so I’m in position.

Hand:

QTip Imagination Table

QTip (UTG)

100x effective

QTip opens 2.25bb

Folds to BB, who calls

Flop: Qh4h8d

BB checks

QTip bets pot

BB calls

Turn: 3d

BB checks

QTip bets pot

BB calls

River: Tc

BB checks

QTip Shoves

 

Preflop Range:

Opening range: 228 combos; AA-55,AKs-A2s,KQs-K9s,QJs-QTs,JTs-J9s,T9s,AKo-ATo,KQo-KJo,QJo

207 after the flop

 

Typical action (sort of):

Bet Flop: 79 combos (38% range)

Value (42 combos): AA, KK, QQ, 88, AQ, KQ,

Bluff (37 combos): A8, A4, 55-77, 8/10 A-high FDs, 6/6 weaker FDs

Leaves back QJ, QTs, 99-JJ, a couple A-high FDs

 

Bet Turn: 53 combos (67% of flop betting range)

Value (42 combos): AA, KK, QQ, 88, AQ, KQ

Bluff (9 combos): A8, 6 weaker FDs

 

Bet River: 41 combos (77% of turn betting range)

Value (19 combos) AA, KK, QQ, 88, J9

Bluff (10 combos) missed flush draws (no pair T or >)

 

Snowie Frequencies:

Flop: Pot 25%

207 * .25 = 52

52 * .667 = 35

35 bluffs / 17 value

 

Turn: Pot 33%

52 * .33 = 17

8 bluffs / 9 value

 

River: All-in 49%

17 * .49 = 8

5:3ish

 

 

My Buckets Based on Snowie’s Frequencies and Default Ratios:

 

Bet flop: 53 combos

Value betting hands (18) AA, KK, QQ, 88

Bluffing hands (35) 8/10 Ahigh FD, 6/6 other FD, A8, A4, JT, J9, Td9d, Kd9d-KdJd, Adxd (not all)

 

Bet turn: 17 combos

The turn only removes 1 card from my flop betting range, Ad3d. So, I have 52 on the turn.

Value betting hands (9) – QQ, 88, AA

Bluffing (8) – 6/6 other FD, JdTd, Jd9d,

 

Bet River: 10 combos

River removes no combos

Value betting hands (5) – Jd9d, Jh9d, QQ

Bluffing (3) – KhJh, KhTh, JdTd

 

Snowie’s Buckets:

Flop: A bit less than 2:1 Interesting a large chunk is made of KJ.

Hand Combos Frequ Total
QQ 6 100% 6
88 6 100% 6
AcAd, AcAs, AdAs 3 100% 3
KcKh, KdKh, KhKs 3 17% 0.51
KdKd, KcKs, KdKs 3 100% 3
QdJd 1 3% 0.03 19 Value
Ah8h 1 6% 0.06
Ac4c, As4s 2 5% 0.1
AhJh 1 46% 0.46
AhJc, AhJd, AhJs 3 93% 2.79
AhTh 1 56% 0.56
AhTc, AhTd, AhTs 3 100% 3
Ah9h 1 6% 0.06
Ah2h-Ah9h 6 100% 6
Ad3d 1 83% 0.83
Ad2d 1 100% 1
KJ 16 100% 16
KhTh, Kh9h 2 100% 2
KTs 3 100% 3
JdTd 1 2% 0.02
Jd9d 1 5% 0.05 36 Bluffs
Total 54.47

 

Turn: Way more value hands than bluffs

Hand Combos Frequ Total
QQ 3 100% 3
88 3 100% 3
AA 3 100% 3
KcKh, KdKh, KhKs 0.5 100% 0.5
KdKd, KcKs, KdKs 3 100% 3
QdJd 0 100% 0 12.5 Value
Ah8h 0.1 50% 0.05
Ah3h 1 60% 0.6
Ah5h 1 100% 1
Ah2h 0.9 100% 0.9
Ad2d 0.9 100% 0.9
KdJd 1 8% 0.08
KhJh 1 8% 0.08
KdTd 1 9% 0.09
KhTh 1 9% 0.09
Kd9d, Kh9h 2 10% 0.2
JdTd, Jd9d 0 100% 0 4 Bluffs
Total 16.49

 

River: Only 25% bluffs…curious. With the all-in, seems you’d want to toss in more bluffs.

Hand Combos Frequ Total
Jd9d 0 100% 0
QQ 3 100% 3
88 3 100% 3 6 Value
Ah5h 1 54% 0.54
Ad2d 0.9 62% 0.558
Ah2h 0.9 62% 0.558
KdJd 0.1 100% 0.1
KhJh 0.1 100% 0.1
Kd9d 0.1 100% 0.1
Kh9h 0.1 100% 0.1 2 Bluffs
Total 8.056

 

Changes to Typical:

 

Flop: Looks like I had a decent selection of bluffs, but don’t hold back enough value hands.

Turn: Similar to the turn

 

Sniff Test:

I’m a bit too tired to sniff…

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    Until I learn more, I’m using the frequencies and recommended bet size in Snowie. If you feel the frequency is whacked, I’d love to hear the discussion. I’ll be checking it out myself; no idea what these are going to look like.

    (As it turns out, when Snowie gives a percentage for an action, it’s not including card removal for the combos of the previous street. So, my numbers are a bit off for my buckets. I didn’t go back and redo my buckets after finding this out. The weighted combos on the turn and river are because not all combos got through from earlier streets. Perusing Snowie’s hand selections are really interesting.)

    I’ll use the default bluff to value ratios (2:1, 1:1, 1:2) until I discover some reason to begin deviating. In addition, I’ll be examining Snowie’s ranges compared to the ones I create. Tedious work in this software. That way I can compare hand selection for buckets as well as Snowie’s ratios.

    For Hand 3, I’m using another UTG hand, still working with a more manageable number of combinations and ensuring I get comfortable with the opening ranges in each position. This time, only the BB flats so I’m in position.

     

    Hand:

    QTip Imagination Table

    QTip (UTG)

    100x effective

    QTip opens 2.25bb

    Folds to BB, who calls

    Flop: Qh4h8d

    BB checks

    QTip bets pot

    BB calls

    Turn: 3d

    BB checks

    QTip bets pot

    BB calls

    River: Tc

    BB checks

    QTip Shoves

     

    Preflop Range:

    Opening range: 228 combos; AA-55,AKs-A2s,KQs-K9s,QJs-QTs,JTs-J9s,T9s,AKo-ATo,KQo-KJo,QJo

    207 after the flop

     

    Typical action (sort of):

    Bet Flop: 79 combos (38% range)

    Value (42 combos): AA, KK, QQ, 88, AQ, KQ,

    Bluff (37 combos): A8, A4, 55-77, 8/10 A-high FDs, 6/6 weaker FDs

    Leaves back QJ, QTs, 99-JJ, a couple A-high FDs

    Bet Turn: 53 combos (67% of flop betting range)

    Value (42 combos): AA, KK, QQ, 88, AQ, KQ

    Bluff (9 combos): A8, 6 weaker FDs

    Bet River: 41 combos (77% of turn betting range)

    Value (19 combos) AA, KK, QQ, 88, J9

    Bluff (10 combos) missed flush draws (no pair T or >)

     

    Snowie Frequencies:

    Flop: Pot 25%

    207 * .25 = 52

    52 * .667 = 35

    35 bluffs / 17 value

     

    Turn: Pot 33%

    52 * .33 = 17

    8 bluffs / 9 value

     

    River: All-in 49%

    17 * .49 = 8

    5:3ish

     

    My Buckets Based on Snowie’s Frequencies and Default Ratios:

    Bet flop: 53 combos

    Value betting hands (18) AA, KK, QQ, 88

    Bluffing hands (35) 8/10 Ahigh FD, 6/6 other FD, A8, A4, JT, J9, Td9d, Kd9d-KdJd, Adxd (not all)

     

    Bet turn: 17 combos

    The turn only removes 1 card from my flop betting range, Ad3d. So, I have 52 on the turn.

    Value betting hands (9) – QQ, 88, AA

    Bluffing (8) – 6/6 other FD, JdTd, Jd9d,

     

    Bet River: 10 combos

    River removes no combos

    Value betting hands (5) – Jd9d, Jh9d, QQ

    Bluffing (3) – KhJh, KhTh, JdTd

     

    Snowie’s Buckets:

    Flop: A bit less than 2:1 Interesting a large chunk is made of KJ.

    Hand

    Combos

    Frequ

    Total

     

    QQ

    6

    100%

    6

     

    88

    6

    100%

    6

     

    AcAd, AcAs, AdAs

    3

    100%

    3

     

    KcKh, KdKh, KhKs

    3

    17%

    0.51

     

    KdKd, KcKs, KdKs

    3

    100%

    3

     

    QdJd

    1

    3%

    0.03

    19 Value

    Ah8h

    1

    6%

    0.06

     

    Ac4c, As4s

    2

    5%

    0.1

     

    AhJh

    1

    46%

    0.46

     

    AhJc, AhJd, AhJs

    3

    93%

    2.79

     

    AhTh

    1

    56%

    0.56

     

    AhTc, AhTd, AhTs

    3

    100%

    3

     

    Ah9h

    1

    6%

    0.06

     

    Ah2h-Ah9h

    6

    100%

    6

     

    Ad3d

    1

    83%

    0.83

     

    Ad2d

    1

    100%

    1

     

    KJ

    16

    100%

    16

     

    KhTh, Kh9h

    2

    100%

    2

     

    KTs

    3

    100%

    3

     

    JdTd

    1

    2%

    0.02

     

    Jd9d

    1

    5%

    0.05

    36 Bluffs

    Total

       

    54.47

     

     

    Turn: Way more value hands than bluffs

    Hand

    Combos

    Frequ

    Total

     

    QQ

    3

    100%

    3

     

    88

    3

    100%

    3

     

    AA

    3

    100%

    3

     

    KcKh, KdKh, KhKs

    0.5

    100%

    0.5

     

    KdKd, KcKs, KdKs

    3

    100%

    3

     

    QdJd

    0

    100%

    0

    12.5 Value

    Ah8h

    0.1

    50%

    0.05

     

    Ah3h

    1

    60%

    0.6

     

    Ah5h

    1

    100%

    1

     

    Ah2h

    0.9

    100%

    0.9

     

    Ad2d

    0.9

    100%

    0.9

     

    KdJd

    1

    8%

    0.08

     

    KhJh

    1

    8%

    0.08

     

    KdTd

    1

    9%

    0.09

     

    KhTh

    1

    9%

    0.09

     

    Kd9d, Kh9h

    2

    10%

    0.2

     

    JdTd, Jd9d

    0

    100%

    0

    4 Bluffs

    Total

       

    16.49

     

     

    River: Only 25% bluffs…curious. With the all-in, seems you’d want to toss in more bluffs.

    Hand

    Combos

    Frequ

    Total

     

    Jd9d

    0

    100%

    0

     

    QQ

    3

    100%

    3

     

    88

    3

    100%

    3

    6 Value

    Ah5h

    1

    54%

    0.54

     

    Ad2d

    0.9

    62%

    0.558

     

    Ah2h

    0.9

    62%

    0.558

     

    KdJd

    0.1

    100%

    0.1

     

    KhJh

    0.1

    100%

    0.1

     

    Kd9d

    0.1

    100%

    0.1

     

    Kh9h

    0.1

    100%

    0.1

    2 Bluffs

    Total

       

    8.056

     

     

    Changes to Typical:

    Flop: Looks like I had a decent selection of bluffs, but don’t hold back enough value hands.

    Turn: Similar to the turn

     

    Sniff Test:

    I’m a bit too tired to sniff…

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